Try to submit module to GNU Emacs

[gnusupport]

Could you please submit your module for inclusion into GNU Emacs?

It works well, so why not submit it directly to inclusion into GNU Emacs?

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/

[anse1]

I didn't think there was widespread enough interest in a postgres
client interface to consider getting something upstream in the
first place. Also, I'm afraid the current module form is
probably not the right format to do that. After all, the module
interface was designed to allow independent distribution, and the
lack of any modules being shipped with emacs seems to confirm
that.

@marsam appears to have experimented with getting it distributed
via ELPA? I don't see any modules already in ELPA, though - is
it even possible to distribute modules with the current ELPA
infrastructure?

Another blocker might be that the FSF needs copyright assignments
to get things into either emacs or ELPA. I do have an assignment
on file, but not sure @marsam does…

[gnusupport]

If there is or not, does not matter. But this module is making wonders. I am managing my database with this module and helm. I have personal contact management or CRM system to manage with this module. It iwll create impact.

I suggest that you try to include it into GNU Emacs by writing to the list.

Yes FSF needs copyright assignments, why not.

[gnusupport]

I am making application based on emacs-libpq and asking on emacs-devel how to include module as such. I would have several applications to be submitted to ELPA based on this module.

One application is like hyperlink management in tabular mode, that is so much similar to browsing something like gopher, it could browse from server to server all by using PostgreSQL, it is similar to augment from Engelbart.

Other applications would be like invoice and other customer management systems, marketing, mailings, and similar.

[anse1]

Thanks for the nice words. I also got requests via other channels and it seems there is more demand for this module than I anticipated. I also read rumors that there are already some packages in ELPA that include C code. I just merged a pull request from @tgbugs in that direction, but I need to read up more on the ELPA machinery... I was hoping @marsam could confirm he has files with the FSF for contributions to Emacs and its extensions. But maybe it can still be argued his was a minor contribution and thus okay without a copyright assignment on file.

[marsam]

Hi, sorry for the delay. I don't have a copyright assignment yet, I'll try to get one tonight.

[gnusupport]

* Andreas Seltenreich <notifications@github.com> [2020-10-19 21:59]:

Thanks for the nice words. I also got requests via other channels and it seems there is more demand for this module than I anticipated. I also read rumors that there are already some packages in ELPA that include C code. I just merged a pull request from @tgbugs in that direction, but I need to read up more on the ELPA machinery... I was hoping @marsam could confirm he has files with the FSF for contributions to Emacs and its extensions. But maybe it can still be argued his was a minor contribution and thus okay without a copyright assignment on file.

You can look into emacs-vterm module how they made it that module is installable and that it builds and compiles the software. It would be so great to have PostgreSQL module in GNU ELPA, that people can develop various applications. I have some of them. You may write to emacs-devel AT gnu.org mailing list and make any questions about that.

[gnusupport]

* Mario Rodas <notifications@github.com> [2020-10-19 22:45]:

Hi, sorry for the delay. I don't have a copyright assignment yet, I'll try to get one tonight.

Any progress? Do you need help?

[gnusupport]

@marsam please send email to emacs-devel AT gnu.org and you will get copyright assignment form. That is message I have got today from there.

[marsam]

Sorry for the delay. The past week, Craig from gnu kindly guided me through the process.
I already sent my signed assignment form to assign AT gnu.org, and IIUC I've to wait to FSF to sign it.

I don't want to block the release in elpa. If you can place my contributions as minor, and okay without a copyright assignment, please go ahead.

[gnusupport]

* Mario Rodas <notifications@github.com> [2020-11-01 19:18]:

Sorry for the delay. The past week, Craig from gnu kindly guided me through the process. I already sent the my signed assignment form to assign AT gnu.org, and IIUC I've to wait to FSF to sign it. Nonetheless, I don't want to block the release in elpa. If you can place my contributions as minor, and okay without a copyright assignment, please go ahead.

That is such a great news to hear Mario! I cannot place that, maybe I can help with checks for the package and then you will do it. You may read Tips in the Emacs Lisp manual. It will open a spectrum of applications to be served straight from main Emacs.

[marsam]

I just received my copyright assignment :)

[gnusupport]

* Mario Rodas <notifications@github.com> [2020-11-06 17:19]:

I just received my copyright assignment :)

That is great news. What is next step?

[anse1]

GNU Support writes:

* Mario Rodas ***@***.***> [2020-11-06 17:19]: > I just received my copyright assignment :)

Thank you very much ^^

That is great news. What is next step?

I did look at how emacs-vterm distributes their module via ELPA in the meantime. They just invoke their cmake based build when the module is not available while loading the package. I am surprised that ELPA itself doesn't have any module awareness... While this is more ad-hoc than I expected I guess I'll just arrange that. Maybe adding autoconf to reduce the risk that people have to adjust the Makefile when installing from elpa. If that's done, I'll do the coming-out thing mentioned in the ELPA docs.

[gnusupport]

* Andreas Seltenreich <notifications@github.com> [2020-11-06 22:11]:

While this is more ad-hoc than I expected I guess I'll just arrange that. Maybe adding autoconf to reduce the risk that people have to adjust the Makefile when installing from elpa. If that's done, I'll do the coming-out thing mentioned in the ELPA docs.

You may start now as sooner you start you will get support on emacs-devel to polish better. Please just start.